Digging in Deeper: 1 Corinthians 1:18

“For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is the power of God to us who are being saved.” (CSB – Read the chapter)

Today’s post will represent something of an update of a continuing conversation I’ve been having via the comments section of several different posts now with a skeptical friend. Most of it you can find here and here. It has been a learning experience for sure. It has also been a reminder of several different things including the importance of clarity and kindness in our interactions as followers of Jesus with the unbelieving world around us. Perhaps more than anything else, though, it has served as a demonstration of just how true what the apostle Paul wrote here toward the beginning of his first letter to the Corinthian church really is. Let’s talk about why.

I was watching one of the latest episodes of Abbott Elementary last night. It’s a show about a poor, inner-city school in Philadelphia. Format-wise, the show is a mockumentary in which a camera crew (who we never see, but who are routinely acknowledged by the cast and the occasional guest) is filming what life is like for five teachers, the custodian, and the principal. All seven of them (as well as pretty much every character in the series) are caricatures that are all quirky and fun in different ways. The writing has been pretty good so far as the show is into its third season. It has rightly – and accurately – lampooned several different aspects of life in public schools (especially under-funded inner-city schools). It carries a pretty strong progressive bias, especially through the eyes of one teacher who is young, gay, and painfully white among the otherwise all-black staff, but it hasn’t come across as anti-conservative or even anti-Christian in any way, just pro-progressive which, honestly, is a nice change for a major network sitcom today.

In any event, the plot of the episode was about an attempt to get the school named an historical landmark in the city. The efforts get derailed when an activist group shows up at the ceremony and decries the school’s namesake as a racist. After some effort, the main cast members manage to find a direct descendant of the founder who appears to check off all the properly progressive boxes so as to satisfy the critics. When they try again to have the ceremony it’s all going well right up until he takes the mic to say a few words. He thanks the crowd, decries his great, great-grandfather’s racist views, promotes racial equality and climate justice, and then assures the gathered crowd of students and community members that they will achieve these goals from one side of the world to the other.

Immediately all the eyebrows of the main cast shoot up to their hairlines as that’s not how a person typically talks about the world. Yes, it turns out he was a Flat-Earther all the time. As the main character of the series assures the students that the world is round like a globe, the crazy guy responds as he’s being dragged away from the mic, “Of course it’s not. Have you ever seen a map?”

I started laughing when he said they were going to save the world from one side to the other and kept right on laughing into the next commercial break. The scene was hilarious not least because of the reaction of the teachers and school board members. It was also a bit of a lightbulb moment for me. As Christians, that’s about how the skeptical world reacts to some of the things we believe. It has certainly been the case over the course of my conversation with my skeptical friend who has variously accused me of drinking the Kool-Aid, abusing my children, and indoctrinating my congregation. When he’s related parts of our conversation on his own blog the accusations have been even more colorful than that.

And, honestly, I don’t blame any of them. If I was operating from the same basic worldview that my skeptical friend and his blogging community are using, I’d look just as crazy to me as I do to them. If you’re reading this and consider yourself a follower of Jesus, you’d look about the same way. And they’d probably accuse you of some of the same things.

Think about it. We believe in a supernatural God who is described as doing some pretty wild things. He’s described as tacitly approving, giving permission, and outright commanding things that seem horrible when detached from their context and filtered through a modern, skeptical worldview lens. Our whole worldview hangs on the event of the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. Science tells us pretty confidently that people can’t be raised from the dead. (Unless they’re zombies, and then that’s a different matter that usually happens in massive numbers and not just one guy.) Our whole framework for making such a claim is a collection of ancient documents that skeptics have picked completely apart, or so they confidently tell us. Then there are our major doctrines. Some of those are downright offensive.

So does this mean our whole worldview is little more than a bunch of nonsense? Well, consider the rest of what Paul had to say in this passage: “For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing…” Quick side note: they are perishing because in their rejection of God they are separating themselves from the only source of life in the world. If you cut yourself off from life, then death is the only other option. This doesn’t mean anyone who rejects God is going to simply drop dead where they stand. That’s obviously not the case. God is far more patient with people than that. Life is always an option as long as there is breath in our lungs.

Continuing… “For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is the power of God to us who are being saved. For it is written, ‘I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside the intelligence of the intelligent.’ Where is the one who is wise? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the debater of the age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish? For since, in God’s wisdom, the world did not know God through wisdom, God was pleased to save those who believe through the foolishness of what is preached. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles. Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, because God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.”

So, what does Paul mean? He means that to the skeptical observer who really isn’t much interested in believing in the first place, the Gospel is going to come across as little more than nonsense. Offensive nonsense at that. Okay, but does that mean it’s wrong? Not at all. Rest assured that the comprehensive case for the truthfulness of the Christian worldview is strong. This doesn’t mean that a handful of skeptics who mostly came to prominence in the wake of 9/11 and who are master rhetoricians can’t make a case that’s really pretty compelling to folks who haven’t spent much time actually studying Christian theology. Not a few folks with almost no background in the faith have stumbled upon their work and that of their disciples and been totally taken in by their arguments. And yet the case for Christianity still stands firmly. Have confidence in that. There’s evidence aplenty, stronger evidence in fact than for most other ancient historical claims. In addition to that, there are multiple other lines of reasoning from various philosophical disciplines that all point to the reasonableness of the faith.

Hear me well, though, in the mind of a committed skeptic, none of that is going to make much in the way of difference. They’re still going to think you’re as nuts as the Flat-Earther from Abbott Elementary. That’s okay. Let them. The foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of people.

Just in case you feel like you want to go looking to have these kinds of conversations, though, here are a few things to keep in mind. First, if you’re not confident in your own faith and in your ability to be able to respond to clever arguments and engage on some of the tough questions of Old Testament history that will be set before you (and possibly even thrown in your face), you’re probably wisest to stay away. If you are going to swim with the sharks, you’d better know what you’re doing, or you’ll get eaten.

Second, there’s no substitute for kindness and generosity and humility in your approach. If you’re not able to maintain that, don’t bother engaging. You won’t convince anyone of anything except that you’re a jerk, and you’ll get yourself all flustered and frustrated in the process. My friend shared how one Christian commenter finally got so frustrated that he called him the “spawn of Satan.” Rest assured, that wasn’t a particularly convincing tactic except on the point that the guy was a clueless jerk who wasn’t confident enough in his belief to be able to make arguments instead of insults.

Third, you’re going to want to have on some pretty thick skin. You can’t take anything personally…even the personal stuff. If you do, it’ll show, and they’ll win the argument by default. Remember: your beliefs are weird and maybe even offensively weird to them. For some people, until they experience the patient, consistent love of Christ applied over time, they’re not ever going to give Christianity any kind of meaningful consideration. They’re likely as confident in their position as you are in yours. Arguments don’t win those kinds of debates. Love does.

Fourth, remember that it’s not your job to convert anybody. If you set the truth before them with humility and grace, and they don’t respond, that’s okay. Jesus made clear that their rejection is of Him, not you. You can keep building a relationship with a smile on your face, or you can agree to part amicably. Remember something else Paul said: so far as it depends on you, live at peace with everybody. All you have to do is bear witness and demonstrate the love of Jesus. Everything else is on His shoulders.

Fifth and finally for now, have fun. You really don’t have anything to lose here. Don’t take yourself seriously, take the Gospel seriously. The hope you have in that is pretty amazing. And the love that you have experienced is big enough for you to keep giving away to others and it won’t ever run out. So, keep on loving the one anothers around you. And if they raise an argument or objection you haven’t considered and don’t know how to answer, remember that you don’t have to know everything to trust in God’s goodness. Lean into what you have experienced and with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego smile and say that even if God doesn’t give you all the answers on this side of eternity, you’re still going to trust in Him.

8 thoughts on “Digging in Deeper: 1 Corinthians 1:18

  1. Ark
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    Let me first say this is an excellent apologetic. Covers pretty much all bases and even I, much like the gospels, get an anonymous mod throughout. Then just as I was about to say, Ah, but, you had to go and include the paragraph that explains something about why it does not matter if you are ostensibly thick as two short planks, God doesn’t have to reveal everything and providing you hold firm in the faith and behave yourself, he will kiss it better and explain it all once you pass the multiple choice questionnaire St Pete asks you to complete at gates.

    As I said, well done Senor Jonathan. šŸ‘

    I just feel a bit of a cad that I am likely to be one of, if not the only one of God’s special little people who will read it.

    I suppose you could get the missus abd the kids to read it?

    Before long I will be a legend in my own lunchtime.

    You should print it out as a sermon to hand out to your congregation.

    Put it up on Facebook.

    Drive a bit more traffic this way?

    As to the veracity of the content of the post. You know, the bits where you talk about evidence and wotnot? We’ll now…. what can I say?

    🤦

    You could always try praying. Maybe God will jump in on your behalf? We all know how that works, right? šŸ˜‰

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    • pastorjwaits
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      I’ve typically found it to work pretty well :-). Of course, there’s that whole God’s mysterious will piece of puzzle, but we’ll just leave that alone. Don’t want to have too much fun in one night.

      I tried to have a little something for everyone here. Too bad most of them won’t ever see it. Oh well.

      As for the missus and the clones, they have to listen to me once a week. I don’t want to inflict more on them than I have to.

      For what it’s worth, it did go to Facebook. They all do. But, I get about as much traffic there as I do here. At least the minimal traffic keeps me humble.

      At the very least, I did manage to give you a bit of a chuckle on the night shift, and that’s not nothing. Besides, a good facepalm moment to snicker at while making tomorrow morning’s loaves will at least give you something to laugh at with the crew.

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      • Ark
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        We only make cakes, except for a few specific made to order things for Christmas. We do take turns making bread for the house and I am generally responsible for biscuits.
        And I don’t share these type of things with my crew.

        As I mentioned prayer, how much thought do you give regarding its effectiveness?

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      • pastorjwaits
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        I do love a good cake. What’s your best seller? When you say, ā€œbiscuit,ā€ would that be a cookie for me or a biscuit? I’m a big fan of both. I’ve got a pretty good sweet tooth.

        I did mean that in jest, but I appreciate that a lot. Where folks from my congregation have read through our dialogue and ask me about it, you should know that I speak pretty highly of you. In spite of our occasional points of somewhat vigorous disagreement, I hold you in pretty high respect. I really do enjoy our conversations.

        On prayer, I give a fair bit of thought to it and believe it to be awfully effective with a series of caveats mostly focused on what God wills. But getting stuff isn’t the real point or purpose of prayer. Prayer is about building a relationship with God.

        Assuming there’s a God who is as I have described Him to be and not just an invisible man in the sky, that a God who created the world and everything in it not only has the capacity to listen to what someone as obscure as me has to say, but actively delights in doing so is a pretty incredible thought.

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      • pastorjwaits
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        Or anybody else who seems to need it and doesn’t get it. That’s a great question and an important one as well.

        What I see revealed in the Scriptures is a God who is good. I know there are all kinds of objections you could raise to that, but I’m giving you my perspective (and one shared by countless millions of believers over the last 2,000 years). I know what follows may not make much (any) sense from your perspective, but you asked how I think about it. This is how.

        God is good, and His goodness is bigger than our brokenness whatever form it happens to take. For followers of Jesus, we are living with the hope of a future in God’s kingdom where all the brokenness of sin will be gone forever. All of it. In all of its forms. What exactly that looks like, I can imagine some, but it’ll no doubt be even better than that.

        Because we are living with that future in mind, things that happen to us here and now don’t ultimately matter. Notice, I said they don’t ultimately matter. They may indeed be horrible here and now. But because God is so good, because His goodness (and power) is bigger than our brokenness, He is able to take things that are decidedly not good and through them accomplish much that is good. He can accomplish through it more and better good than we or the people around us through us might have been able to experience before what was bad happened.

        This is not automatic and will require us to trust in Him, a trust demonstrated by our willingness to see life through the lens of His kingdom and to obey His command to love one another after the pattern of His love for us. But He won’t leave us alone to do this all by ourselves either. Through His Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, He will give us the hope and encouragement we need to keep living toward that end in spite of the pain and frustration we feel now because of whatever the bad thing was.

        How all of this translates practically is that sometimes God demonstrates His goodness by healing our bodies physically or bringing the otherwise obviously desired outcome of our bad situation to bear in our lives. Sometimes, though, He invites us to trust Him in the hard situation because of the good He intends to accomplish through it.

        The challenge of this from the outside looking in (and often from the inside as well) is that we don’t know why He chooses to take one path sometimes and another path at other times. From the outside looking in, I know that feels deeply unsatisfying as an answer. It often does from the inside too. But there are just too many stories of people who didn’t get that healing they desired experiencing His goodness and sharing gladly with anyone who will listen that while they aren’t necessarily glad the bad thing happened, they are glad for all the good they can attribute directly to its happening to think there’s nothing to any of this.

        If you’re interested in one such story, give a listen to this from Joni Eerckison-Tada. It’s just under 8 minutes long.

        I guess that’s a long way to say that I don’t know why God didn’t heal a particular person like the amputee from your example the way we naturally wanted Him too. But there are healings He can still grant that go beyond merely the physical body. Sometimes those are more needed and more desires such that when He gives those instead, the person winds up grateful for the thing that created the opportunity for God to work in this outside-the-box way.

        For what it’s worth, both Paul and Jesus prayed for things God didn’t give them.

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  2. Thomas Meadors
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    Ark

    Just wanted to let you know I’ve enjoyed the back and forth between you and Pastor J. I haven’t added my 2 cents as it would be like a checkers player trying to get in a chess match but I will say I enjoy reading Jonathon’s blog on a fairly consistent basis. I’ve learned more for him on reading and understanding the scripture in the past 5 years than in my other 58 here on earth. I’ve shared his blog with my FB friends on several occasions. I consider him not only my pastor but my friend. Hopefully one of these days he will convince you that God exists and you will not be doomed to Hell! Kidding. Just kidding. I will say I am praying for you and I hope you continue to have a dialogue with our pastor. I hope this doesn’t upset you, I do this with all respect. Keep posting. šŸ˜Ž

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